A friend with three years in the valley (great swe) got the following offers after some rounds of negotiation (level, signing, base, equity): Facebook: E4 / 100k / 160k / 300k Google: L3 / 50k / 145k / 385k LinkedIn: L4 / 45k / 170k / 350k Google won't budge on level or base. What do you guys think? Any advice?
That’s the highest that fb will go for e4, and likely google for e3, linked can be a bit higher in base but the equity package is good — too bad they didn’t get e4 at google because then base can be 15k more and equity a lot more
How do you know that's the max for e4? Blind numbers suggest they go higher on the stock.
What do the refreshes look like a Facebook? Not only is the Facebook offer better, it's a higher percent liquidity. You can consider the linked in and Facebook offers 'equal' considering that sign on. Google needs to get over themselves if they ever want to stop losing talent to other companies.
^ This. Ruth has made Google too arrogant.
Honestly, as much as I'd love for Ruth to find the wrong side of freight train while driving home; this has been a culture problem that pre-dates her. "Hire the best" is engrained in everyone's head, and they think that since they made it through a flawed hiring process that relies heavily on luck and who interviews you, that they are God's gift to engineering... All while working 11am-4pm 4 days a week and complaining about how things aren't "what they used to". Googlers take the broken interview system as some sort of badge of honor. "Sorry, we can't up you to e4 OP". OP isn't going to give a shit, he's going to find somewhere else that's going to give him the level and pay he wants.
LinkedIn has the best work life balance.
Is fb sign on given in the first year ?
First paycheck.
That's awesome.
Honestly Google offer looks like L4 than L3. L3s don't get 145k base and 385k in stock. I would recommend you to confirm with recruiter.
The levels in the OP post seem to be shifted. FB offer looks like E5. Btw. do recruiters usually mention the level?
They do when asked explicitly.
Depressing
That's even a question?
Don’t come to LinkedIn
Seconded. Take Facebook imo.
Any particular reason if the project sounds interesting?