I left Amazon several years ago after having a really bad manager. Never had a PIP or anything (at least never communicated to me). Surprise, surprise: a recruiter reaches out to me after many many years about a senior position and guess what? They can't move forward after speaking to HR leaders. After being a manager at other places, it is almost unheard of to have someone leaving flagged as "not regrettable" and prevent someone being rehired. This only happens for a serious HR violation or some bad perf problem.
Amazon's motive is to hire fast, fire fast, and keep the hidden gem. They are not trying to develop a team that's stable. This is the main reason they need to get out of Seattle and Bay Area, because sooner or later they will run out of fresh meat. So everything make sense now, right?
It does. And that explains the continuous phone calls I got over the weekends to work on something "by Monday".
I feel motivated by your story. You're at Google, after (hideously) stamped as "not regrettable" at Amazon. The Mgr at Amazon are not certainly not good.
I hope it's not common. I'm considering going back too, just got pinged by an Amazon recruiter who is recruiting for SDE3. I'm an L4 at Google currently and it would be an upgrade to go back to Amazon with a level bump.
Don't go back. There are so many good companies out there.
Which companies are good out there?
I also had similar experience.. I left Amazon after getting meets expectation rating under a bad manager and there are around 10+ recruiters approaching me after few years. I decided to pursue with one of them and after clearing the on-site, I heard that my profile is being marked as "ineligible to re hire"and they can't move forward with an offer.. WTF
LOL and this happened has after the on-site?? You'd think they'd check first...
Wow, that really sucks! How come they didn't check that before wasting time with interviews?
The "you can always come back after one year" is BS afterall. They were just lying to reduce the resistance to appeal the pivot and pip.
I rejected an offer from Amazon a few years ago because it was an absolute lowball. Basically paid less than my job then, and the pitch was “come to seattle, save the state tax” Now I’m dead to all their recruiters. No more calls, applications to other (higher level) positions go unanswered.
Wow, this is just dumb on their part. Missing out on talent out of spite?
It just tells that they got plenty of candidates to choose from. Why would you spend time on people who do not embrace LPs and decline low balls?
To avoid running out of good people, re-hire eligibility records of at least decade old ex-employees can be purged.
Anyone know how much say Amazon HR has in hiring decisions? Does "do not rehire" mean the hiring manager cannot hire the person even if they wanted to? Or is it more of a recommendation not to rehire?
You need a VP to override the decision, which means very unlikely
Am I correct to assume most VPs will generally say no?
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Why do you wanna go back anyways?
Very unlikely I'd consider going back given the horrible experience I had. I shouldn't be, but can't help finding it shocking to see this kind of behavior on the company's part.
I think Amazon alumni recruiters actively reach out to people who were not blacklisted. I get emails every 6 months. Not from recruiter but alumni recruiter.