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If your contract is US remote but you work let’s say in Europe and they find out during some checks, can you get fired for breaching the contract? #oracle #remote #vpn
Without looking at your contract, no one can tell ya. People did get fired for that reason many times when contract stipulated that you need to be in a specific country.
Really? Many people? I’ve never heard of anyone
Not really something folks announce on LinkedIn, but it does happen more than you would think.
It’s likely against some policy somewhere, and to be clear this isn’t just to be dicks. Orgs are based in countries and are beholden to paying tax there. X-border working without a setup tax regimen to send tax to the right gov is a serious legal problem Sadly whilst tech makes this totally possible, law/regulation for “digital nomads” is waaay behind in most countries. Worse in Europe (geographic continent not the EU)where borders are just lines on a map and roads flow freely between radically different tax zones
Yes, US export laws around IP and GDPR laws around data can land both you and the company in hot water. They will fire you for this to cover their ass.
Are you asking if you could get fired for violating your employment contract, while simultaneously causing potentially serious international tax and labor law issues for your employer? Yes.
If you’re still at oracle you can ask for a work from abroad type situation, someone in my department did it for 3 months from a European country but it’s up to managers approval.
The senior engineer in my team took a vacation abroad for “two weeks” over a year ago and has just never come back. If they fired him our team would collapse into a burning pit of unresolvable sev2s. But if my L4 ass doesn’t start coming into office 3 days a week I’m going to get fired, so I guess the answer to your question is it depends.
This reminds me of the double standards I experienced at a company. They allowed some senior guy to work remotely wherever he wanted, but they would tell me remote work was prohibited.
It's not double standard, not more than the fact the senior engineer is paid more. Basically for your skills set they can find someone who work in the office for a lower salary, if you don't agree with those terms they will find someone else. For your senior engineer skills set, they can't replace them with someone else for a lower salary or working in the office, so they have leverage to work remotely. Being allowed to work remotely or not is no different than having a different salary, it's not a double standard
You can get fired for working remotely from another state, so definitely abroad. There's tax implications for you and the company.
There’s things companies don’t let you do because they just don’t feel like letting you do it, and then there’s things companies don’t let you do because the government won’t let you do it. This falls into the second category.
Yes you can get fired, but depending on you company and the country you can also get approval for usually a week or two.
Employment in the US is “at will” which basically means other than a few protected reasons your employer can fire you for any (or no) reason anytime. If working abroad is against company policy, they can fire you. If lying about it is against policy, they can fire you. If your boss doesn’t like Europe, he can fire you. If your company is reasonable, you might can get away with saying you are visiting family or something. But, I believe there are tax and employment law implications if employees are living in another country so they may have no choice but to fire you or take other actions.