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PM is irrelevant role and will die in next 2-3 years.
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If your team does daily standups, your manager is a micromanager
Generally it’s not worth it. Only consider if it’s Harvard/Stanford/UPenn.
Yeah but I’m asking for the elite MBAs. They seem like bad investments too for the same reason
Thing is that some of those guys and hit it off with some crazy connections. Those crazy connections = great opportunities.
You have to get this sponsored, otherwise not worth it
@ImposterX, did SAP sponsor you? Most of the people I've known at SAP get denied for reimbursement for BS reasons.
If your manager wants to pay for it, he will. Each Cost Area has a budget for training/education, all it takes is for him/her to commit part of it for your tuition.
MBA == lol
I see your POV -- MBA's starting to go down the line of law school scams.
MBA bubble is bursting. Even the most elite MBA program at Harvard saw big declines in enrollment and applications
That's been the case with all boom cycles though. As soon as the economy slows, enrollment at schools goes up again.
I have an MBA from University of Washington Foster School and it was completely worth it. They have one of the best ROIs for cost to career opportunity post-grad. On average students pay off their loans in 4 years and greatly increase there income. My advice would be to really know what you want to get from it and pick a program that fits with that goal. Some jobs you really don’t need it. But I would have done it either way. It’s also a great way to make career transition if that’s what your looking for.
Can you list the type of jobs that really need MBA and that cannot be obtained through experience or other ways?
Consulting. But that’s like 200k. And career progression and lifestyle is awful. Principals barely make 500k. Partners make 1M but 95% will get fired or leave before they make the cut
Do a exec or online / part time MBA. Then you can stay at work and check the MBA box. Unless you are changing careers no reason to take two years off
What do you want to get out of it? MBA is helpful for people who want to transition industries or roles.
I agree. For me, it was about transitioning and getting more career flexibility whereas I previously felt stuck in one industry. If you have specific plans in mind, and know what you want to do, you might be better off just chasing it.
Exactly. I don’t have one, but as “reset” it can be very powerful. If you can get to where you want to go without it, not worth it. It’s valued more in more traditional professions (ie banking, marketing). For those on this thread saying to get exec MBA etc, that’s a different question. I think OP was asking in terms of prestige and trajectory value, not whether valuable things would be learned. If you can get the same degree with little cost, additional knowledge is great.
If you are talking about elite MBA, it’s absolutely worth it in the long term. There are a lot less good product managers compared to engineers. The career growth is a lot more compared to what you can achieve being an engineer
Engineeers become directors at some point too
There are a lot less good product managers because you also need a lot less product managers. Unfair comparison. A startup will need 100 engineers but only 5 PMs
Have you done it or thinking about doing it?
Yea, I don’t see much value either
Unless it's an M5 MBA.
You mean M7?