Teachers in the US make enough money
They work like 60% of the year and get paid 60% of people with a similar level of education in a different field. Sorry you chose a job where you get a 2.5 month summer break + other vacations + pension. Cry me a river.
If youâre right that teachers make so much, then there shouldnât be a shortage of teachers (basic supply demand). You have no idea what being a teacher entails. You sound like youâre a prick trying really hard to be a prick in public
There isnât a shortage. Itâs just that the people who have the skills to teach are more in demand in industry. If people could pay more to have better teachers, then there would be more teachers. Another consequence of public services.
@sJyN40 that's such a boneheaded final sentence. The reason there isn't incentive for paying teachers more has absolutely nothing to do with public services. It has to do with the short-range incentive structure of corporate capitalism. Very very few companies expect to be able to reliably reap the effects of funding general education (the word reliably is doing all the heavy lifting here), and so education is left to the only actor which definitely will reap such effects, i.e. the state.
Thatâs stupid logic sjy. If the job is so cushy and so well paid, ol Ofcourse people will Flock to it
And Google SWE works about 50% of the year for 200% payđ
More like 3X to 5X+ the pay
Meanwhile there's a dramatic shortage of teachers and no easy road to closing the gap. Their pay is going to skyrocket just on supply and demand, regardless of your opinion about the fairness of it
Yes but thats only if america values run of the mill public school education. Which they dont. Teachers at schools like exeter choate harker and the like are still paid more than their fair share. The benefit of these schools isnt their teaching quality, far from it. Its that these schools have an informal pipline to every top college Note that even in asia (and america) the money doesnt come from being a school teacher. It comes from being effectively a legal rick singer who can help facilitate the ugly parts of gaming the college admissions process.
Most teachers have to take continuing education courses to keep their certification in the summer. Teachers also need to spend their own money to buy chalk, books, pencilsâŚdid you know this? One lady interviewed said she spend $2k one year.
Do they have to always or was she in shitty school? Do other schools as well donât just buy this as inventory? This doesnât pass smell test.
Situation and district dependent, but it frequently happens as it's more convenient and makes for a more efficient/effective classroom experience. That being said, it happens to some degree with a corporate job too - I've bought items for work out of pocket that I wouldn't be approved for or for speed/reduced hassle in order to improve my productivity.
You do it incorporate job because itâs peanuts for you. You wonât do it when paid $40k a year. It sounds stupid for teachers to spend their money on this.
My wife is a teacher. She spends 16+ hours regularly just to mark the tests, even at home. On an hourly basis, it's pretty much a minimum wage job. Kind of her fault for choosing English as the teaching subject because marking math tests for example can be fed through the scantron machines. She does not get "summer off" because that time off is baked into her annual salary, which is properly discounted for the time she's off in summer (ie. She gets discounted pay throughout the year so that she still gets paid in summer when she's not working). Unions repping teachers are grifters themselves & teachers get fugged from that too. We are in Canada but I reckon it's very similar in the USA.
Facts.
In the US, at least in Ohio, they can pick wether to have a paycheck spread evenly or only while working. Also in America teachers also have to worry about school shootings. Our governor even allows teachers to carry guns! So there's some scope creep, teacher and police officer for the low price of 45k. The states getting a great deal. Sarcasm, but we definitely need to pay teachers more. I agree with what others are saying, supply is too low because pay is too low.
Thx. What makes the teachers union a grift? I'm generally no fan of unions either, so that's interesting that you're not a fan either despite your wife being a part of such a strong and entrenched unionized industry.
Do you seriously think teachers get to enjoy the entirety of the summer break and other student vacations? When do you think they make their lesson plans? It's not a vacation for them just because there are no students in school. It ONLY means that they have no students to teach. Teachers do more than teach, they prepare.
The State hands them the lesson plans
But they have to study those plans and prepare to teach, prepare homeworks, prepare exams. It is time consuming.
I'm sure the third year in a row that you teach the same class that is very time con consuming. Must take hours!
I bet you think you're so much better than them
I am one of those people who always wanted to be a teacher but gave it a hard nope after seeing the pay to BS ratio. Everything you said is wrong on so many levels that I can't even respond. You are part of the BS in that equation that makes it not worth it as a profession. Gtfo.
I wrote 2.5 sentences. If you canât formulate a response to that maybe you werenât cut out to be a teacher anyways lmao
Nah, my response will fall on deaf ears with people like you. You can't be taught.
Thatâs ok. Thatâs what I would say too if I knew I didnât have a good argument
Itâs apparent you donât understand anything that goes into teaching.
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