Google L6 SWE vs. Amazon L7 SWE Offers
***UPDATED I am grateful to have passed HC for Google L6 and am matching with a couple teams. Recruiter is calling me tomorrow to discuss numbers. Interview performance was good. Amazon Seattle offer: Originally 500k, negotiated to 550k then to 575k (final offer) Amazon Bay Area offer: 630k, no negotiation Google MTV offer: Originally 580k, negotiated to 600k + 50k signing (final offer) TC 400k+, YOE 10 (Not at HP currently)
Congrats!!! Where you at now?
Thank you :) Sorry I would mention it in person but revealing it on blind may easily identify me.
Is amazon for seattle?
Yes Amazon in Seattle. Just edited the post!
Can you provide a few words on negotiating?
Google refreshers will be better in years 2,3,4 but MTV will be more expensive. Amazon refreshers will mostly only allocate stocks in years 5+ but Google stock grants vest at an even rate. At L6 you'll probably get at least 200k additional RSUs every year* that vest 25% per year over 4 years. * You don't get any new grants the very first calendar year you join. If you start before December 31 of this year, you'll get a new grant in 2020. If you start after Jan 1 then you don't get one until 2021.
Yeah I won’t be starting until February. I’m taking a month vacation before I start so it is what it is. Thank you for the insight though!
The same with me. I am taking a month off and joining early Jan at G. I will be missing out on some sweet sweet refreshers for a year. But for a months vacation, it's worth it!
But it’s a great place for me haha
Did you do HC before team match? I was under the impression Google was doing team match before HC at least for L5 / L6 hires. Is this not true?
Most people I know who got L5 at google did not team match before HC
When did they get in? AFAIK, the new system (team match before HC) is relatively recent (past 6 months to a year).
What was the interview like? Lots of coding or mostly describing your impact at previous jobs or what?
PE at Amazon is a much better role than L6 at G.
Can you please explain why?
An L6 at G is a limited role in a very small area where you are responsible for a lot of execution. PE at Amazon is more of an architect role where you work with a bunch of teams and can help have a much wider impact. On an average there is 1 L6 in every 7-8 google engineers. There is one PE at Amazon for every 35-50 engineers.
Congrats on the great offers. With good interview performance and a competing offer like yours, G will match at the bare minimum.
Thank you! Although the Amazon offer is in Seattle and Google is MTV, so I’m hoping I can get Google at or near the 600k mark.
They'll probably give you one time extra RSU grant and a big sign on bonus to sweeten the deal. 600k sustained TC is unlikely, but compared to Amazon you'll probably make more money long-term at G