Google appears to have an 8-16% forced SCI quota (the number varies depending upon the source) and it appears that Nooglers are being targeted by managers to fill the quota. @Googlers: If you joined Google in 2021 or 2022, please indicate whether you are on SCI or not in the poll. EDIT: Poll results indicate that 69% of 2021 joiners and 55% of 2022 joiners are on SCI (sample size > 10). Hire to fire? Aggregation of related posts: https://www.teamblind.com/post/About-to-get-PIP-at-Google-need-Modafinil-or-Adderall-prescription-Fhekxtim (SCI after 6 months) https://www.teamblind.com/post/Google-PIPsupport-check-in-e61sRF1p (SCI after 6 months) https://www.teamblind.com/post/SCI-is-wrongly-used-by-Managers-FTqP85E3 (SCI after 7 months) https://www.teamblind.com/post/Noogler-support-checkin-LawXNjkF (SCI after 6 weeks) https://www.teamblind.com/post/dont-join-google-for-the-next-1-year-hXSGU6P2 (EM confirms most Nooglers are being put in SCI) https://www.teamblind.com/post/Big-Google-workforce-reductions-coming-fcshhKgw (This same user posted about Meta and Amazon layoffs weeks before they happened) https://www.teamblind.com/post/Team-Transfer-after-Support-Check-In-aed6oEuW https://www.teamblind.com/post/Sad-PIP-story-Bc2WqjWH https://www.teamblind.com/post/noogler-got-a-support-check-in-3FaFquQN (SCI after ~5 months) https://www.teamblind.com/post/Google-as-you-know-it-is-gone---welcome-to-hell-forced-PIP-quota-rant-C3bZRgTO https://www.teamblind.com/post/Got-google-support-checkin-j4bgMbFy (SCI after ~3 months) https://www.teamblind.com/post/Google-now-worse-than-amazon-for-pip-culture-YQOZWNLA (SCI details) https://www.teamblind.com/post/You-really-shouldnt-join-Google-right-now-07HfK5Sz (SCI details) TC: ~550K YOE: 8 Offers: Google, TikTok #google #h1b #layoffs #support #pip #stock #tc #noogler
Guess I’m behind the times. What is SCI?
Support checkin in. A kind of discretionary funnel into pip it seems
Google vs TikTok - both are evil. Pick your poison.
Just join, do nothing and coast for a year, collect severance. Ez life
Someone got an SCI within 6 weeks of joining. https://www.teamblind.com/post/Noogler-support-checkin-LawXNjkF
Nope.
Yes. 3 months noogler, got my SCI last week. Broke me a bit but I was back in business the next day.
@OP did you get past SCI? Are you from India? How much time did they provide you to improve and how much time will they provide for PIP? How many people are there in your team and how many got SCI? Which org do you belong?
Could it be that nooglers really bought into rest vest thing at Google and were taking it too easy?
This is me to a certain degree. Got placed on SCI, am a noogler. I wasn't coasting but I wasn't displaying any urgency. But at the same time projects get delayed years on end, can't say I saw any urgency from them. Rules are for thee, not for me 🤷♂️
@pn6 did you get past SCI? Are you from India? How much time did they provide you to improve and how much time will they provide for PIP? How many people are there in your team and how many got SCI? Which org do you belong?
Google hired a ton of people in the last year and a half. A lot of those people have gotten SCI but it’s probably no different than the percentage for other googlers. I’m a noogler and didn’t get one and I’m close with like 8 other nooglers and none of them have gotten SCI up to this point
@pushnProto Poll results indicate that 42.86% of 2021 joiners and 40% of 2022 joiners are on SCI (sample size > 10). Are you saying the poll is biased? If so, any thoughts on how to de-bias the poll?
Lol I’ll let you decide if a poll with only 38 responses on an anonymous platform where anyone can vote anyway is reliable or not.
The good news: HR docs very clearly say (1) don’t give SCIs solely due to tenure, (2) consider ramp up time when rating Nooglers and don’t expect them to have as much impact as tenured employees, and (3) S (middle rating, 70% get this) is strong default rating for Nooglers unless they are failing to ramp up at the usual pace. Bad news: many managers/directors/VPs are doing it wrong and giving SCIs to Nooglers anyway.
What's your Google offer split and level?
Curious about this too. It’s just unfair to get hired and then be put on SCI.